The Trial of Charles Random de Berenger, Sir Thomas Cochrane - Part 28
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_A._ I think it was a dark coat, a kind of brown coat--but I will not swear to that.

_Q._ You saw a red coat underneath it?

_A._ Yes, I saw a red coat down as far as the waist; I did not see the skirts of it.

_Q._ Did you make any particular observation upon the red coat?

_A._ No, I think it was turned up with yellow; but I should not like to swear that.

_Q._ Had it any thing upon it?

_A._ It had a star of some sort upon it, but I was not close enough to see that, and cannot swear to what it was.

_Q._ Was that all that you observed of his dress?

_A._ No, not quite all, I think; I think upon the outer coat there was fur, a kind of white fur, the same as off a rabbit's skin.

_Q._ But that you do not recollect with certainty?

_A._ No, I should not like to swear to that.

_Q._ As you conversed so much with that gentleman, do you think you should know him again?

_A._ I should know him in a moment.

_Q._ Have you seen him since you have been in Court?

_A._ Yes, that is the gentleman (_pointing to De Berenger_.)

_Q._ Have you any doubt that is the person?

_A._ Not at all.

_Q._ Since the day you drove him, have you seen him before to-day?

_A._ I have.

_Q._ How often?

_A._ Only once.

_Q._ Where was that?

_A._ In King-street, Westminster, in a room there.

_Q._ Did you equally well know him then?

_A._ I did the moment I saw him.

_Q._ Had you ever the least doubt about him?

_A._ Never the least in the world; I knew him as soon as I saw him.

_Cross-examined by Mr. Richardson._

_Q._ Have you not been told this morning in what part of the Court he sat?

_A._ No, I never enquired about it; I looked round when I came in and found him out in a moment; I dare say every gentleman in the Court saw me.

_Q._ Had you never seen him before this time you speak of in February?

_A._ I have seen him since, I never saw him before February, to my knowledge.

_Q._ When was it that you heard of the reward which was offered by the Stock Exchange?

_A._ I heard of it the day it was printed.

_Q._ How long after this transaction happened?

_A._ I think two or three days afterwards.

_Q._ Do you remember the Club at Dartford, called the Hat Club?

_A._ Yes, perfectly well; I was there.

_Q._ Do you remember the conversation there, whether Crane or you should get the reward?

_A._ Yes, I remember being asked, whether I thought I should get the reward, and I said I thought not.

_Q._ You produced your purse, with what you had got?

_A._ Yes, I produced my purse, and rapped it on the table in this way, but that was money I had laid out before; I had received five pounds from the gentlemen of the Stock Exchange towards my expences.

_Q._ What might be your observation, when you rapped it upon the table?

_A._ To let them know that I had it.

_Q._ Did you say any thing about the yellow boys?

_A._ Yes, those were the gold Napoleons.

_Q._ Did you not say that the gentleman applauded you, and said you were a clever fellow?

_A._ No, I did not, I would have said very wrong if I had, I am sure.

_Q._ I think they would have done you no more than justice. Did you not on that occasion say, you would swear for that side that paid you best?